One Anothering

 

We are including One Anothering as a foundation of Jesus' faith in which the F,S,S have invited us to participate in their relationship!

Go to the Early Church page to see more about One Anothering!

 

 

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Separation (does not exist) - Alienation (is only by our choice)

 

Ideas of separation and/or alienation from God(F,S,S) are not the same. Yes, they have been misunderstood and conflated in our modern Christian teaching.

First things first, let's establish that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are never (have never been) separated from each other, as the F,S,S are One, nor has/is God ever separated from us. However, we do experience alienation from our end. Alienation feels to us like separation, yet God never leaves us nor abandons us. The F,S,S is omnipresent (always with us) in our deepest, darkest times in this life. Our lack of appreciation for or experience of God's presence does not mean God has withdrawn from us. 

We have been taught that our sin (missing the mark) is somehow God's kryptonite. Part of this explanation is that, since God is holy, God cannot be in the presence of our sin. Scripture is typically referenced to establish that separation between God the Father and God the Son occurred on the cross, which is tragically promoted as an educated, theologically correct perspective.

See the following simple explanation that has escaped the majority of Protestant Evangelical and Roman Catholic (Western Chruch) instruction. It is present in the Eastern Chruch, but not to the same degree.

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Five Basic Points:

1. As with much of Scripture, the New Testament quotes the Old Testament. Psalm 22:1 is not a metaphysical rupture.

   • Jesus is quoting the first line of Psalm 22 to invoke the whole psalm, as would have been common for a Rabbi's purpose to bring the listener's attention to the larger relevant Scriptural context, which is Psalm 22 in this case:

     • Describes crucifixion‑like suffering (pierced hands/feet, casting lots).

     • Ends in trust, praise, and worldwide salvation.

     • If the reader doesn't stop with verse 1 of chapter 22, but keeps reading, we see that the Father never turned His face away from Jesus on the cross: “He has *not* hidden his face from him, but when he cried to him, he heard.” (Ps 22:24)

     • The very chapter in the book of Psalms that Jesus references denies that the Father turned away from the Son.

2. The Trinity is indivisible; no “holy” abandonment.

   • Orthodox theology insists: Father, Son, and Spirit are one in being; you cannot peel the Father away from the Son at the cross without falling into heresy.

   • God’s holiness is not fragile purity that must flee contact with sin; it is burning, healing love that enters the world’s sin and death to destroy them from within.

3. Jesus enters our experience of God‑forsakenness.

   • The “forsaken” is psychological, not ontological (Lychnos, Reardon).

   • He prays Psalm 22 “from inside” our darkness: He feels what we feel—abandonment, dereliction—while in truth the Father is with Him (“Yet I am not alone, for my Father is with me” – Jn 16:32).

4. Justice as healing, not retribution

   • Athanasius (as interpreted by Coptic OA) and Anástasis Center: the “penalty” of sin is not an externally imposed beating, but the intrinsic consequence of turning from the Source of life (corruption, death, exile).

   • God’s “wrath” is best understood as the face of love colliding with our refusal, not as a need to balance a cosmic ledger by abandoning or torturing His Son.

   • Thus, holiness does not require the Father to abandon the Son; it requires the Father and Son, in the Spirit, to go all the way into our exile/death to bring us home.

5. No total depravity: wounded goodness, not worthless sinners

   • Eastern Orthodoxy explicitly rejects total depravity.

   • Humanity is good but wounded, enslaved, and sick; Christ the New Adam assumes our condition to heal, restore, and deify it, not to satisfy an offended honor code.

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• Baxter Kruger | Jesus Meets Us In Our Delusion of Separation - 

https://youtu.be/zCWTOKES4Oo?si=M-vRQDdhB9KZux_V  (58.22)
 

• Is Hell Separation From God? - Wm. Paul Young -  

https://youtu.be/XUEHpNCn7bA?si=1X-b9Uu7cHq0aDrl    (15:19)
 

• No separation (God never leaves nor abandons us) - demonstration with chairs

Note the differences between the Western and Eastern Church's explanations.

https://youtu.be/9VwP7df9BuY?si=jmdgd_z4HrpoSgmx   (54:14)

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• ​God(F,S,S) is with&in us. How did Jesus "pray" as a result? We are God's temple (home). How to connect and experience God's presence with&in us. Find the union God has provided. Recognise and receive the invitation to be ONE with God. 
  https://youtu.be/LNZHljfH2Fg?si=Z5np-NtOhJdAgXyz

 

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Infinite vs Finite (God alone is infinite—Everything that is not God is finite)

 

"God is Infinite; What is Not of God is Finite"

Below is a structured scriptural and theological exploration of this profound claim. 

 

The Thesis

• God(F,S,S) alone is infinite [uncreated, unlimited, unmeasurable, eternal (outside of time), self-existent, and perfect] in all God's attributes.

• Everything that is not God is finite [created, limited, measurable, dependent, and contingent].

 

Who was Nicodemus? Why was his interaction with Jesus relevant?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The "I Am" Context of John

While the specific "I Am" statements (like "I and the Father are one") come later in the Gospel of John, this conversation sets the stage. John’s Gospel begins with the prologue stating, "The Word was God... and the Word became flesh." The conversation with Nicodemus is the first major narrative where that "Word made flesh" explains his mission.
 

In short: Jesus doesn't use a modern theological label like "I am the second person of the Trinity," but he tells Nicodemus that he is the heavenly, unique Son of God who has the power to grant eternal life—claims that Nicodemus would have understood as Jesus placing himself on the level of the Divine.

 

​Key Implications:

1. God is the only necessary being; all else exists by His will and grace.

2. Evil, sin, and rebellion are finite—they have no ultimate power, permanence, or independent existence.

3. Creation is good but limited; it points beyond itself to the Infinite One.

4. Human beings are finite creatures made for communion with the Infinite, finding fullness only in God.

This framework helps us understand:

• The nature of God vs. creation

• The origin and limits of evil

• Why idolatry (treating finite things as infinite) is so destructive

• The hope of redemption and eternal life

 

Scriptural Foundations: God's Infinity

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God is Eternal (Beyond or Outside of Time)

• Psalm 90:2 – "Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever you had formed the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God."

• Isaiah 57:15 – "For thus says the One who is high and lifted up, who inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy…"

• Revelation 1:8 – "'I am the Alpha and the Omega,' says the Lord God, 'who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.'"

 

Theological point:
God(F,S,S) has no beginning or end. God is not subject to time; F,S,S is the eternal "I AM" (Exodus 3:14).

Time itself is a created reality within which finite creatures exist.

 

God is Omnipresent (Beyond Space)

• 1 Kings 8:27 – "Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain you…"

• Psalm 139:7–10 – "Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence? If I ascend to heaven, you are there! If I make my bed in Sheol, you are there!"

• Jeremiah 23:24 – "'Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him?' declares the LORD. 'Do I not fill heaven and earth?' declares the LORD."

 

Theological point:
God is not limited by space. He is fully present everywhere, yet not contained by anything. Creation exists within God's presence, but God infinitely transcends it.

 

God is Omnipotent (Unlimited Power)

• Job 42:2 – "I know that you can do all things, and that no purpose of yours can be thwarted."

• Matthew 19:26 – "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

• Ephesians 3:20 – God "is able to do far more abundantly than all that we ask or think, according to the power at work within us."

Theological point:
God's power has no limit. He is not constrained by natural laws, human ability, or any external force. All power in creation is derived from Him and is therefore finite.

 

God is Omniscient (Unlimited Knowledge)

• Psalm 147:5 – "Great is our Lord, and abundant in power; his understanding is beyond measure."

• 1 John 3:20 – "God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything."

• Isaiah 46:10 – God declares, "the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done."

 

Theological point:
God's knowledge is exhaustive and perfect. He knows all actual and possible realities. Human knowledge is always partial and limited (1 Cor 13:9, 12).

 

God is Self-Existent and Independent

• Exodus 3:14 – God reveals His name: "I AM WHO I AM."

  • God's existence is not derived from anything else; He simply is.

  • When Jesus said, I Am who I Am my physical body was overwhelmed with chill bumps and a tingling sensation throughout. It reached the depths of my being and moved outward to my tear ducts. What an invitation it was to receive and experience my physical body responding to who I Am as God(F,S,S) says I Am!

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• Acts 17:24–25 – "The God who made the world and everything in it… is not served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives to all mankind life and breath and everything."

• Psalm 50:10–12 – "For every beast of the forest is mine… If I were hungry, I would not tell you, for the world and its fullness are mine."

 

Theological point:
God depends on nothing. He is aseity—self-sufficient, needing nothing outside Himself. All finite beings depend on Him for existence moment by moment.

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Scriptural Foundations: Creation is Finite

 

All Things Were Created by God

• Genesis 1:1 – "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth."

• Colossians 1:16 – "For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible… all things were created through him and for him."

• Revelation 4:11 – "Worthy are you, our Lord and God… for you created all things, and by your will they existed and were created."

 

Theological point:
Everything that is not God has a beginning. Creation is contingent—it did not have to exist. God alone is necessary.

 

Creation is Good but Limited

• Genesis 1:31 – "And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good."

• Psalm 19:1 – "The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork."

Yet:

• Romans 8:20–21 – Creation "was subjected to futility" and is in "bondage to corruption."

• 2 Corinthians 4:18 – "The things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal."

 

Theological point:
Creation is good and reflects God's glory, but it is not divine. It is limited, temporal, and dependent. It points beyond itself to the Infinite Creator.

 

Human Beings are Finite Creatures

• Psalm 103:14–16 – "He knows our frame; he remembers that we are dust. As for man, his days are like grass… the wind passes over it, and it is gone."

• James 4:14 – "What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes."

• Job 14:1–2 – "Man who is born of a woman is of few days and full of trouble. He comes out like a flower and withers…"

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Yet humans are made in God's image (Gen 1:26–27):

• We are finite, but made for communion with the Infinite.

• We are limited, but invited into eternal life through Christ (John 17:3).

 

Theological Synthesis: The Infinite-Finite Distinction

 

The Creator - Creature Distinction

Classical Christian theology affirms an absolute ontological distinction between God and creation:

• God (Infinite) - Creation (Finite)

• Eternal - Temporal

• Self-existent - Contingent

• Unlimited - Limited

• Necessary - Dependent

• Perfect - Imperfect (even if good)

• Immutable - Changeable

 

Key Principle:
God is not "the biggest thing in the universe." He is categorically different from all created things. He is not part of the universe; the universe exists with&in the F,S,S's creative will and sustaining power.

 

God's Infinity Does Not Mean "Endless Extension"

Infinity is not:

• An endless amount of time (that's just everlasting duration).

• An endless amount of space (that's just unbounded extension).

Rather, God's infinity means:

• Perfection without limit: God lacks nothing and cannot be improved.

• Fullness of being: God is pure actuality, with no unrealized potential.

• Transcendence: God is beyond all categories of limitation—time, space, matter, change.

Biblical support:

• 1 Timothy 6:16 – God "dwells in unapproachable light, whom no one has ever seen or can see."

• Isaiah 55:8–9 – "'For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,' declares the LORD. 'For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.'"

 

Evil and Sin are Finite

If God is infinite and all that is not God is finite, then:

• Evil has no independent, infinite existence.

• Evil is not a "thing" or substance, but a privation—a lack or corruption of the good.

Augustine's teaching:

• Evil is parasitic on the good. It has no being of its own.

• Sin is a turning away from the Infinite Good (God) toward finite, lesser goods (idols).

Scriptural support:

• Genesis 1 – God creates everything and calls it "good." Evil is not part of the original creation.

• James 1:13–17 – God is not the author of evil. "Every good gift… is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change."

• John 8:44 – The devil "does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him." Evil is a negation, not a positive reality.

Implication:
Because evil is finite, it is limited in power and duration. It cannot ultimately triumph over the Infinite God. Its defeat is certain (Revelation 20–21).

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The Danger of Treating the Finite as Infinite (Idolatry)

 

What is Idolatry?

Idolatry is treating something finite as if it were infinite—giving ultimate allegiance, trust, or worship to something that is not God.

• Romans 1:25 – They "exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever!"

• Colossians 3:5 – "Put to death… covetousness, which is idolatry."

Examples of modern idols (finite things treated as infinite):

• Money, power, success

• Romantic relationships, family

• Nation, political ideology

• Self, personal autonomy

 

Why Idolatry Destroys

When we treat finite things as infinite:

1. We demand from them what they cannot give (ultimate meaning, security, satisfaction).

2. We become enslaved to things that were meant to serve us (Rom 6:16).

3. We distort our own humanity, made for the Infinite, by settling for the finite.

• Psalm 115:4–8 – Idols "have mouths, but do not speak… Those who make them become like them; so do all who trust in them."

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Theological point:
Only the Infinite can satisfy the human heart. Finite things are good gifts, but they become destructive when we make them ultimate.

• Augustine: "You have made us for yourself, O Lord, and our heart is restless until it rests in you."

 

The Gospel: The Infinite Enters the Finite

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The Incarnation

The most astonishing Christian claim:

• John 1:14 – "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory…"

• Philippians 2:6–7 – Christ Jesus, "though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men."

 

Theological point:
The Infinite God enters into finite creation without ceasing to be infinite. Jesus is fully God (infinite) and fully man (finite)—the hypostatic union.

 

The Cross and Resurrection

• 2 Corinthians 5:21 – "For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God."

• 1 Peter 3:18 – "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God…"

 

Theological point:
Through Christ's death and resurrection:

• The finite (human sin, death, limitation) is taken up into the Infinite (God's life, love, and power).

• We, who are finite, are invited into eternal communion with the Infinite God (John 17:3; 2 Peter 1:4).

 

Eternal Life: Participation in the Infinite

• John 17:3 – "And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent."

• 2 Peter 1:4 – We become "partakers of the divine nature."

• 1 Corinthians 13:12 – "Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known."

 

Theological point:
Salvation is not just forgiveness of sins; it is transformation and participation. Finite creatures are invited into the infinite life of God—not by becoming God, but by being united to Christ and filled with the Holy Spirit.

 

Practical Implications

 

Worship Only the Infinite

• Give ultimate allegiance, trust, and love only to God.

• Enjoy finite goods (family, work, beauty, pleasure) as gifts, not gods.

 

Humility and Dependence

• Recognize our finitude: we are creatures, not the Creator.

• Live in dependence on God for life, breath, meaning, and hope (Acts 17:28).

 

Hope in the Face of Suffering

• Because evil is finite, it is temporary and limited.

• Because God is infinite, His love, power, and purposes cannot be thwarted.

• Romans 8:18 – "For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us."

Freedom from Idolatry

• When we rest in the Infinite, we are freed from the tyranny of finite things.

• We can enjoy creation without being enslaved by it.

• Matthew 6:33 – "But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you."

 

Concise Theological Statement

• God alone is infinite—eternal, self-existent, unlimited in power, knowledge, presence, and perfection.

• All that is not God is finite—created, contingent, limited, and dependent upon Him for existence.

 

This infinite-finite distinction means:

• Creation is good but not divine; it points beyond itself to the Creator.

• Evil and sin, being finite, have no ultimate power or permanence and are destined for defeat.

• Human beings, though finite, are made in God's image and called into eternal communion with the Infinite through Jesus Christ.

• Idolatry—treating the finite as infinite—distorts our humanity and leads to bondage, while worship of the true and living God brings freedom, rest, and fullness of life.

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In Christ, the Infinite enters the finite to redeem, transform, and invite us into the eternal life of God—where our finite hearts find their infinite home.

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Salvation, Sacrifice and Sacrificial Systems  

 

What Salvation is and what it is not.

The majority of Christianity (more specifically, a majority of Western Christianity) misunderstand Salvation from God(F,S,S) at a fundamental level. Salvation is a person, the LOGOS (Jesus), who is the fullness of God in human form.

We have been taught that Salvation is something we gain, not a relational connection with the F,S,S. The imagery we have been given is that of a ticket to not go to hell (a concept not understood well either). Salvation is perceived as being acquired by cancelation of a dept as if God doesn't have the infinite ability to pay off any kind of debt. The reality is that Salvation is a relational position that we have been granted as our created purpose, and that even our worst experiences of alienation from God and relatinoal "debt" can't eliminate. Salvation is not an end result. It is a healing and restoration only found in our identity with&in Jesus.

Jesus is the gift already given to all. A gift unrealized to those of us who are lost to it. We have refused to recieve and experience it. To the lost it is an invitation not accepted and not experienced. Not a gift taken away. Any "taking away" iis only through our delusions of "separation from God."

God has provided Salvation to all whether all beleive it or not. No person can prevent this infinite gift of God from being given. As hinted above at the failure of the religious to understand what "Salvation" is, religion balks at understanding Salvation as a person because religion doesn't recognize Salvation to be Jesus. Relegion believes it is instead something Jesus does for you, and only when you ask for it in the "right" way. To the religious, "Salvation" is something you get, not who  God says you are. Religion understands "Salvation" to be something that happens to us, not a person who invites us  to participate with&in their life. Salvation is better understood in the terms of salvation being ongoing.  Jesus has saved us, is saving us and will save us!

Salvation is a journey of seeing yourself and others as God(F,S,S) sees you. This is how Jesus heals us of our spiritual blindness.

​Salvation is NOT an appeasement that is somehow both required by God and provided by God through Jesus. 
 

That said, Salvation is through and by Jesus [the fullness of God(F,S,S) in human form] as revealed in the incarnation.

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Salvation is of the very fiber of the Relationship of the F,S,S‘s. It is not something from our contract-based transactional perspective, in which a large number of Christians are stuck. The human concept of "justice" is a significant obstacle that keeps people stuck in a toxic understanding of Salvation.
 

Our potential (created by God) to be ONE with the F,S,S is only experienced with&in Jesus as our WAY of becoming ONE with&in the Relationship of the F,S,S.
 

Analogy, I have the potential to become a father, but I can’t do it by myself.
 

Jesus heals us and restores us of (from) our missing the mark (sin). Jesus is the mark. Fundamentally speaking, Jesus was not a sacrifice as we think of the concept of sacrifice through our modern understanding of the Old Testament sacrificial system, which was God‘s response to pagan sacrificial systems.

The sacrifice of Jesus is better understood as a “gift sacrifice“, not as a ritual victim to appease God, but as the ultimate gift of a human life fully surrendered to revealing that God‘s presence dwells within humanity rather than in a temple (building).
 

Salvation is becoming ONE with&in the Relationship of God(F,S,S) through and by Jesus, which is our healing and restoration. The incarnation is our invitation to experience our healing and restoration to whom the F,S,S created us to be.

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Sacrifice within sacrificial systems
Understanding that our (modern Christian's) perspectives on "sacrifice" within sacrificial systems differ from those of the Old Testament and the Early Church. A starting point is to return to the book of Leviticus for a more Scriptural understanding of what sacrifice meant, rather than what we (modern humans) think it means in our modern context. 

Resources toward understanding the differences:

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• Andrew Rillera on Revisiting the meaning of Christ's sacrifice  - 

https://youtu.be/6MrZ-_xB1W0?si=M9RP_XC-_ovkKRZL   (4:39)

 

• What were the Sacrifices REALLY About? It's not God requiring retribution - Michael Heiser

https://youtu.be/aIVBeXETLn8?si=kfBcwVLTDwMilgXg   (9:09)

 

•  Lamb of the Free: Recovering the Varied Sacrificial Understandings of Jesus's Death -   

https://youtu.be/aVpWMQYKw-I?si=tEyxD0Lvj3h7gh-I   (49:30)​

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• Leviticus on the Butcher's Block by Phil Bray - 

https://youtu.be/reT6VHfH1FU?si=rq-PwqWaZURNB5oC   (0:44)

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• Phil Bray's Thoughts on David Moffitt’s Book, Rethinking the Atonement -

https://youtu.be/Wfifu0n_vqk?si=0-Hy7T1LHvXc5chJ  (21:40)

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• Phil Bray's Thoughts on Lamb of the Free, by Andrew Remington Rillera -

https://youtu.be/PrLB7qnFqvE?si=-Hyn1fDshmhiB5zh  (13:38)

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From God(F,S,S)’s Perspective, God Has No Enemies

 

Let's move through Scripture, then theology, then practical implications.

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From God’s perspective, the F,S,S's does not “have enemies” in the same way humans do—God does not hate in a petty, vindictive, or rivalrous way, nor is F,S,S's identity threatened by anyone.
Instead:

• God opposes evil because the F,S,S is Holy (Sacred).

• The F,S,S loves all that God has made because the Relationship of the F,S,S is love.

• Human beings can make themselves “enemies of God” by their stance toward the F,S,S, but God’s stance—even toward them—is oriented to mercy, reconciliation, and redemption.

So we hold two realities together:

1. Scripture speaks about “enemies of God.”

2. Scripture also reveals that the F,S,S’s ultimate posture is love, mercy, and reconciliation—even toward those called God's “enemies.”

 

Key Scriptural Foundations

God’s Fundamental Posture: Love and Goodness

• 1 John 4:8 – “the F,S,S is love.”

  • God’s essence is self-giving love, not rivalry, not hostility.

• Psalm 145:9 – “The LORD is good to all, and his mercy is over all that the F,S,S has made.”

  • “To all” includes "righteous" and "unrighteous."

• Matthew 5:45 – God “makes God's sun rise on the "evil" and on the "good," and sends rain on the "just" and on the "unjust.”

  • The F,S,S’s providence is generous even toward those who reject God.

Implication: the F,S,S’s baseline orientation toward every creature is benevolent, not hostile.

 

“Enemy” Language in Scripture

The Bible does use the language of “enemies”:

• James 4:4 – “Whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of the F,S,S.”

• Romans 5:10 – “While we were enemies we were reconciled to the F,S,S by the death of God's Son, how much more having been reconciled, shall we be delivered in the F,S,S's life”

• Colossians 1:21 – “You, who once were alienated and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds…”

Notice the pattern:

• The enmity arises in us (“hostile in mind,” “makes himself an enemy”).

• Yet, the F,S,S’s response to “enemies” is reconciliation, not destruction:

  • “While we were enemies, we were reconciled… by the death of his Son, how much more having been reconciled, shall we be delivered in the F,S,S's life.” (Rom 5:10).

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Theological point:
Scripture speaks of us as “enemies of tbe F,S,S,” but it never says, “God is the enemy of sinners” in the symmetrical, hateful, human sense. Instead, the F,S,S acts in sacrificial love toward those designated as God's "enemies."

 

Jesus’s Teaching on Enemies

Jesus reveals the heart of the Father:

• Matthew 5:43–48 – “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven…”

Key observations:

1. Jesus commands us to love our enemies because this is what the Father is like.

2. To be “sons” of the Father is to resemble Him—so if we are to love enemies, that tells us the F,S,S loves those who choose to exist as enemies.

If the F,S,S loves God's "enemies," then in the F,S,S's own heart God does not regard them as permanent, hated rivals. He regards them as:

• Lost sheep (Luke 15)

• Prodigal sons (Luke 15)

• Sick, who need a physician (Mark 2:17)

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God(F,S,S)’s Desire for All

• 1 Timothy 2:3–4 – F,S,S “desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

• 2 Peter 3:9 – F,S,S is “not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.”

• Ezekiel 33:11 – F,S,S takes “no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from God's way and live.”

These texts show that God’s will is not to maintain a permanent category of “those I hate” but to save, heal, and reconcile.

 

Theological Synthesis: How Can God(F,S,S) Have “No Enemies”?

Enmity as a One-Sided Reality

From the human side:

• We can oppose God, resist grace, hate the F,S,S's commandments, and despise God's Son.

• That posture makes us “enemies of God” in biblical language.

From God’s side:

• The F,S,S remains unchanged in God's love and goodness.

• The F,S,S hates sin, but God loves sinners.

• The F,S,S stands opposed to that which destroys God's creatures (evil, injustice, rebellion), but the F,S,S's goal is always restoration, not revenge for revenge’s sake.

 

Analogy:

A doctor and a disease:

• The doctor is “against” the disease (sin, evil, corruption).

• The doctor remains for the patient (the sinner).
  So yes, God(F,S,S) is “against” evil, but for every person God created.

 

God(F,S,S)’s Impassibility (Classical Theology)

In historic Christian theology (especially classical theism):

• God is impassible: not thrown into emotional turmoil, fear, or wounded pride by God's creatures.

• God is simple and unchanging in love and goodness.

So:

• Human “enmity” does not change the F,S,S into our “rival.”

• The F,S,S does not “develop” enemies as if surprised or personally threatened.

• Even divine “wrath” is the F,S,S's holy love reacting against sin, not personal spite.

 

The Cross as God’s Posture Toward Enemies

• Romans 5:8–10 – While we were still sinners, while we were enemies, Christ died for us.

• Luke 23:34 – “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.”

At the very moment humanity treats God-in-the-flesh as an enemy (crucifixion):

• The Son prays for forgiveness.

• The Father offers reconciliation through that very suffering (2 Cor 5:19: “In Christ God(F,S,S) was reconciling the world to God…”)

The cross is the clearest picture that:

• Humanity can act as God’s enemy.

• God(F,S,S)’s response is self-giving love, offering peace and forgiveness.

 

Scriptural Passages About God(F,S,S) “Hating” or Having Enemies

People may raise texts like:

• Psalm 5:5–6 – “You hate all evildoers.”

• Nahum 1:2 – “The LORD takes vengeance on his adversaries and keeps wrath for his enemies.”

How do we understand these without denying God’s love?

1. Anthropomorphic and covenantal language

   • The Psalms and prophets often use strong human language to express the F,S,S’s moral opposition to evil.

   • “Hate” here is not irrational loathing but holy rejection of wickedness and steadfast opposition to man's version of injustice and of violence.

2. Covenant context

   • In many of these passages, “enemies” are those who oppress, destroy, and refuse the F,S,S’s covenant kindness.

   • God’s “vengeance” and “wrath” are the F,S,S defending the oppressed and upholding God's version of justice.

3. Judgment as a function of love

   • To love the victim requires opposing the oppressor.

   • But even judgment aims for restoration, which sometimes includes discipline and refinement. God’s desire is always that people repent and live (Ezek 33:11).

So we can say:

• God really does oppose the evil-doing of the evildoers.

• But this does not mean the F,S,S wishes their ultimate destruction; rather, the F,S,S desires their healing and restoration.

God’s Perspective: Creator, Not Rival

God Has No “Competitors”

• The F,S,S is Creator; everything else is creature.

• An “enemy” in the strict sense would be a rival power that threatens God’s being, authority, or emotional state. Such a thing does not exist. There is no Yin and Yang, because there is no opposing force that is not finite in comparison to the infinite nature of the F,S,S.

Satan is not a true rival “god,” but:

• A created being, radically inferior, on a leash (see Job 1–2; Luke 22:31–32).

• Ultimately defeated and judged (Revelation 20).

Therefore: God has no enemies in the sense of being endangered or diminished by another being. All opposition is creaturely alienation and rebellion, not a genuine threat to God’s being.

 

God as the Father of All

While Scripture differentiates:

• “Children of God” (by faith/adoption) vs. “children of wrath” (Eph 2:3),

It also affirms:

• Acts 17:28–29 – “We are indeed God's offspring.”

• All people are God’s creatures and bear the F,S,S image (Gen 1:26–27).

So:

• Even those called “enemies” remain beloved image-bearers.

• The F,S,S’s heart is that “enemies” who are sons, daughters, and friends embrace their identity revealed in Jesus (Gal 4:4–7; John 15:15).

 

Pastoral and Practical Implications

If, from the F,S,S’s perspective, God does not cling to enemies but seeks reconciliation, this shapes how Christians live.

 

How We See “Enemies”

• We no longer see people as permanent “others” but as:

  • Potential brothers and sisters.

  • Prodigals whom the Father longs to welcome home.

  • Patients in need of the same mercy and healing we have received.

• Ephesians 6:12 – “We do not wrestle against flesh and blood…”

  • Our true “enemy” is not other people, but sin, Satan, death, and the powers of darkness.

Loving as God Loves

• Matthew 5:44–45 – Love your enemies because that is how your Father loves.

• Romans 12:19–21 – Do not avenge yourselves, overcome evil with good.

If the F,S,S’s posture toward “enemies” is merciful and redemptive:

• We cannot justify hatred, dehumanization, or contempt.

• We are called to intercede for enemies, bless persecutors, and seek their good, mirroring the F,S,S’s heart.

 

Concise Theological Statement​

• Human beings can make themselves “enemies of God” by resisting the F,S,S's will and rejecting the F,S,S's love.

• Yet the F,S,S, who is love and cannot be threatened or diminished, does not regard the F,S,S's creatures as rivals in the way humans do.

• The F,S,S's opposition is always directed against sin, evil, and man's sense of justice or injustice—not against the intrinsic worth of persons that the F,S,S has made in the F,S,S's image.

• Even toward those called God's “enemies,” God’s ultimate posture is one of mercy, patient love, and the desire for reconciliation, fully revealed in the cross of Christ.

• Therefore, from the F,S,S’s perspective as Creator and Redeemer, the F,S,S does not will to have enemies; the F,S,S wills to transform "enemies" into friends, children, and beloved heirs by inviting them to surrender their offense and grievance.

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• Jamie Winship | God Sees the True You | NOT an enemy

https://youtu.be/j2Q2dnhshvQ?si=gQ8PHjqFDoc-xYIC  (21:27 )

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Identity in Jesus

 

Our  identity is anamated and filled with life by the pressence of God(F,S,S) with&in us. Jesus is the tangible incarnation of that presence in human form. Jesus is before all things, in all things and holds all things together!

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In Aramaic, "Jesus holds all things together" can be translated as "He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together." This phrase emphasizes Christ's preexistence and His role in sustaining and maintaining the universe. - Colossians 1:17 
 

 This emphasizes that Jesus is the foundational element of the universe, sustaining and maintaining everything that exists. The Aramaic text reflects the same theological concept as in the Greek version of Colossians 1:17, affirming that without Jesus, nothing would exist. 

Jesus is the Tree of life, the Book of life, and the living word of God (Logos). We find our ture identity (who we really are) as the F,S,S has created us to be wiht&in the revelation (incarnation) of Jesus. Our "new name" is found in the presence of Jesus as is the definer of who we are.

The first or old Adam is the identity we adopt as the fruit of our delusional identities that we pick up along the way, those which Jesus came to save us from. We, as the old Adam, are plunged into death with the new Adam (Jesus), not for the sake of deing but for the sake of living through being born from above, which in part is to finally see ourselves as the F,S,S sees us.

Our fake, imposter versions of ourself, God knows not, and comands "to depart from Him," because He does not recognize (acknowledge) the false version we are presenting to the world, God, ourselves and others. God's love (wrath) will not toelrate the false version of man's self. It will be refined out of us. All will be salted by the fire of God (the relationship of the F,S,S) - Matk 9:49

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• Jamie Winship | Getting Your Identity From God (Live Fearlessly) - 

https://youtu.be/k_tCxHAbLnc?si=GO1wjAsXU447buMY  (41:07)

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• The truth about your true identity - Michael Heiser  

https://youtu.be/rUgynuTu6bQ?si=57JZxWSHXL1z64QW  (2:28)

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• Jamie Winship | God Sees the True You

https://youtu.be/j2Q2dnhshvQ?si=gQ8PHjqFDoc-xYIC  (21:27 )

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Sin - Holy Scripture - Hell as Idols in Modern Christianity

 

 

Just because someone was an Early Church Father (leader) doesn't mean that everything they thought or wrote represented the character, nature, and fiber of God(F,S,S). Tertullian was an early church leader of the Western (Roman) Church. His negative contributions to our modern Christian sacrificial system do not disqualify his positive contributions. The same is true for all of us, including Augustine and other Western Church leaders.  The same is also true for the Eastern Church Fathers (leaders), yet not in the same ways. 

Additional information will be posted here at a later time about the unGodly legacy of other leaders and influencers, such as Dante and his imagery of hell.

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Meet Tertullian: A Roman Lawyer Who Helped Shape the Concept of Eternal Damnation" - Darrel Amy

https://open.substack.com/pub/faithreborn/p/meet-tertullian-a-roman-lawyer-who?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

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• Marty Solomon - BEMA - Discover the Bible’s original context and uncover new layers of meaning - https://youtu.be/zoMPviZGACs?si=Cvt1Ze9Re2HEO0uu  (32:07)

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• aionios, the Greek word translated as "eternal" and "everlasting" in the Bible (eternal? hell)

​​https://youtu.be/_kfKQJfT0C8?si=9K4568QX6rW3Cfrs   (21:00 )​

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• Hell. Has It Always Been Forever?

​https://youtu.be/W8N5TBwHE20?si=Y9HcK5SI4ruZCEuw  (6:49)​

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• Sin Is Not A Legal Problem – Athanasius and the Atonement - 

website - https://glory2godforallthings.com/2016/07/12/sin-not-legal-problem-athanasius-atonement/

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• What did Christians do before the Bible?

https://youtu.be/Z4aqY-UdOMo?si=Lli0q0pXT2mDFf-s  (32:32)

 

• ​​How Christ's Descent to Hades Relates to Our Salvation + Does It Show Up in TV (Stranger Things)

https://youtu.be/xTNmeEpUn1Q?si=t2rvEEsnA4s7xMVV  (18:51)

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• Marty Solomon - deep dive into Genesis - how Western Christianity often misses the depth of scripture’s original intent.

https://youtu.be/RN4vJFAJeDI?si=x6EtMtB_Vd-ol875  (102:21)

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• Why Protestants Don't Understand the Old Testament - Fr Stephen De Young

https://youtu.be/r9aBXmCJmRQ?si=7hkfBYvbyTmki4QC  (33:06)

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• Supernatural World in Scripture - Michael Heiser (Ancient Hebrew Scholar)

Heiser's approach involves contextualizing biblical texts within the ancient Near Eastern worldview, revealing layers of meaning that are often lost in modern translations. His scholarship extends beyond theology into linguistics and ancient history, allowing him to interpret the Bible in ways that resonate with both scholars and lay readers. 

https://youtu.be/6-6dhmTMizA?si=67VgpDd_OzNOCr4y  (12:51)

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• How to read/interpret the Bible through an “Eastern vs. Western” lens by Jewish Scholar Marty Solomon
  https://youtu.be/RN4vJFAJeDI?si=KDxNbsE3cebEe-mM  (62:00)
   

• What did Christians do before the Bible?
  https://youtu.be/Z4aqY-UdOMo?si=4oZpaRsJeujsmF37  (32:32)

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• Tim Mackie - What Many Christians Misunderstand About The Bible -

https://youtu.be/llzDdqxIa6c?si=rHeikN1urawbhyiS   (28:42)

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• There are contradictions in the Bible

Contradictions in Sacred Scripture do not mean that Scripture is not inspired. Reasons for what seems to be contradictory: mistranslation, lack of understanding of relevant context (culture differences, scriptural language referencing other parts of scripture or stories or books the audience would have been familiar with that we are not. What appears to us as a contradiction may be relevant to the story/narrative that God intended for us.​

https://youtu.be/k3kGczKfQJg?si=xf_-3YvmUE4khFla  (10:21)

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• Fr John Behr: When, Why, and How should We Read the Scriptures?

https://youtu.be/ieOXvCZUrAA?si=jWEPPbq3TZLn-o-8   (1:05:22)

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• Why the book of Enoch is not in our protestant Bibles.

https://youtu.be/juS04MqI9mg?si=e0tpm74SfV634Pyh 
 

 

 

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God(F,S,S)'s Identity is Healing and Restoration - Not Retribution.

 

Jesus is our Mercy Seat, NOT a propitiation - PDF - the unbiblical English word that may be in your translated Bible
 

​In Psalm 37:38, we read that “the future of the wicked will be cut off.” When viewed through a consistent biblical pattern, we see that God’s “cutting off” is not the annihilation of the person, but the amputation of wickedness itself. Through the fire of pruning, discipline, and judgment, God produces righteousness by removing everything false until only what is true remains.

In Matthew 7:21, when Jesus says, "Depart from me, for I never knew you," is He suggesting a divine "blind spot" or a religiously required ignorance? Such an idea contradicts the very nature of an omniscient God. Instead, we must distinguish between God’s omniscience (knowing all knowledge) and His relational acknowledgment (legitimizing what is true). Jesus is not claiming ignorance of the person; He is refusing to legitimize a false presentation. He is saying: "This fake version of you—this mask of performance—I will not acknowledge. It has no reality in Me, and therefore, it will be refined and destroyed."

"I never knew you" means something deeper than a lack of knowledge or familiarity. It's a recognition of what cannot exist in relationship with&in the relationship of God(F,S,S). God created and desires for all of God's son's and daughters to live relationally with God. It is not the created child of God that Jesus is rebuking. It is the fake version the person has imbraced that Jesus is refusing to acknowledge or have a relationship with. Some will use the "God is too Holy" for God to be in the presense of sin. This statement is religious poppycock. Our sin is not more powerful than God(F,S,S)'s presence. Our sin in is not God's kryptonite. There is no separation of God from us, only our perspective of aleination from our end.  The F,S,S do not do abandonment. There is nowhere we can go to escape God's presenece. In saying, "depart from me for I never knew you," Jesus is refusing to legitimize a false identity or a mask of righteousness. Jesus is identifing the lies and delusions for destruction so that only what is "of God" remains. God desires healing and restoration, NOT retribution.

God is the Great Physician, God's "wrath" is God's refusal to let us stay sick.

When God "destroys" the wicked, He is destroying the sickness of wickedness. Retribution seeks an empty balance through a scale of pain; Restoration seeks to make the person whole. A doctor doesn't "punish" a cancer; he destroys it to save the life.

 

God is described as "Light" (1 John 1:5) and a "Consuming Fire" (Hebrews 12:29).

When the Light of God hits a lie, the lie vanishes. This feels like "destruction" to the person who is hiding behind the lie, but it is actually the first step of healing. You cannot heal a wound that you refuse to expose to the light. God’s "wrath" is the relentless persistence of God's Light

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On the Cross, The F,S,S does not demand an "eye for an eye" from us. Instead, He absorbs the violence of humanity and returns it as forgiveness.

If the Cross is the ultimate revelation of God(F,S,S)’s character, the relationship of God is non-retributive. God does not "pay back" evil with retribution. God overcomes evil with good (Romans 12:21). Jesus is our Mercy Seat, not a propitiation.  Any passage about "destruction" is more accurately understood through the lens of a God who would rather die than seek retribution.

The New Testament consistently uses paideia or kolasis (which originally meant "pruning" a tree to help it grow) when describing God’s discipline.

God’s "punishment" is pruning. You cut off the dead branches (the "wicked" parts of the self) so that the life of the tree can flourish. Retribution cuts down the tree; Restoration prunes it.
 

If wickedness were allowed to exist forever, the universe would never be fully healed.

Psalm 37:38 is a promise of restoration. By "cutting off" the future of the wicked, God is guaranteeing that a day is coming where "mourning and crying and pain will be no more" (Revelation 21:4). God(F,S,S) isn't destroying people; The F,S,S are destroying  that which alienates and harms people.

The Father’s Response

The Parable of the Prodigal Son is the ultimate "anti-retribution" story.

The son deserved a "cut off" future. He had squandered the inheritance and shamed his family and Father. A retributive father would have demanded repayment or kept him as a slave, someone as less than his son.
 

The Father ignores the "legal" requirements of retribution and immediately moves to restoration (the robe, the ring, the feast). The "wickedness" of the son was "destroyed" not by pay back (punishment in a retributive sense) or any other form of ritual sacrifice, but by the overwhelming embrace of the Father (the🔥of God!). The Father's anger did not need to be appeased because the Father wasn't angry. The Father desired instead for his Son to be restored. The "old self" of the son died in the far country, and a "new self" was restored by the embrace of his Father, who RAN, not walked, to remind the Son who he was in his Father's heart and mind!

 

 

 

 

 

 

What a beautiful parable Jesus gave us to help us understand who the relationship of God(F,S,S) is and that our detiny is to participate in this very relationship that birthed us by the purpose of an almighty God

The F,S,S desire healing, not retribution. God(F,S,S) nature is Healing & Restoration

1. Sin (missing the mark) is a self-induced deficiency, a self-inflicted wound or a parasitic lie or delusion that creates our alienation from God.

2. Wrath is the F,S,S’s fierce opposition to that which hurts God's children.

3. Destruction is the "salting by fire" that burns away the dross of the false self.

4. Judgment is the moment the Great Physician says, "This cancer has no future in you; it ends today."
    

Psalm 37:38 is a verse of hope: The "wickedness" that plagues our world and our own hearts has no future. It is destined for the scrap heap of history, while the person God created is destined for the "abundance of peace" (Psalm 37:11).

The passages below address judgment/wrath. They are understood as purification, pruning, smelting, testing, and healing—language that fits the reading of Psalm 37:38 as “no future for wickedness,” a dross-burning work of God.

 

Refining fire/smelting away dross

• Malachi 3:2–3 — “He is like a refiner’s fire… he will purify… and refine them like gold and silver.”

• Isaiah 1:25–27 — “I will turn my hand against you and will smelt away your dross… Zion shall be redeemed by justice.”

• Zechariah 13:9 — “I will bring them through the fire, refine them… They will call upon my name.”

• Psalm 66:10–12 — “You, O God, have tested us; you have tried us as silver is tried… yet you have brought us out to a place of abundance.”

 

Testing fire that burns up “works,” not the person

• 1 Corinthians 3:13–15 — “Each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire… If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved.”

  • This is one of the clearest “dross vs. person” texts: loss/purging, yet the person remains.

• 1 Peter 1:6–7 — Trials are “tested by fire” so faith is refined “more precious than gold.”

• James 1:2–4 — Testing produces steadfastness “that you may be perfect and complete.”

 

Pruning/purging imagery (removing what is false so fruit can remain)

• John 15:1–2 — “Every branch that bears fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit.”

  • Divine cutting is aimed at increased life, not mere destruction.

• Hebrews 12:5–11, 29 — God disciplines “for our good, that we may share his holiness… Our God is a consuming fire.”

  • “Consuming fire” sits inside a fatherly discipline passage: fire as holiness-making.

 

“Salted with fire” (purifying-preserving judgment)

• Mark 9:49 — “Everyone will be salted with fire.”

  • Salt preserves; fire purifies—often read as universal purgation of corruption.

 

Wrath/judgment as corrective, not endless rejection

• Isaiah 26:9 — “When your judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world learn righteousness.”

  • Judgment produces moral learning, implying refinement.

• Lamentations 3:31–33 — “He will not cast off forever… though he cause grief, he will have compassion… he does not willingly afflict.”

  • Affliction has an end and a purpose.

• Micah 7:8–9 — “I will bear the indignation of the LORD… until he pleads my cause… He will bring me out to the light.”

  • Indignation leads to vindication/light.

 

God’s anger “for a moment,” mercy enduring ("wrath" serving restoration)

• Psalm 30:5 — “His anger is but for a moment… weeping may tarry… joy comes.”

• Isaiah 54:7–10 — “For a brief moment I deserted you… with great compassion I will gather you… My steadfast love shall not depart.”

• Hosea 6:1–2 — “He has torn us, that he may heal us… after two days he will revive us.”

  • “Tearing” is not the last word; healing is.

 

The “day of the Lord” as purging of evil/arrogance

• Isaiah 2:10–12, 17 — The day of the LORD humbles “the lofty,” bringing human pride down.

  • The target is pride/arrogance—a false elevation—so truth can stand.

• Zephaniah 3:8–9 — After judgment, “I will change the speech of the peoples to a pure speech, that all of them may call on the name of the LORD.”

  • Notably: judgment → purified lips → worship.

 

God’s end-goal: removal of evil, reconciliation of creation

• Colossians 1:19–20 — God will “reconcile all things… making peace by the blood of his cross.”

• 1 Corinthians 15:22–28 — The telos is “God all in all,” after all opposing powers are put down.

  • Opposition is abolished; God’s life fills all.

• Revelation 21:4–5, 27 — God makes “all things new,” nothing unclean enters the city.

  • This pairs well with “no future for wickedness”: the New Jerusalem is a realm where falsehood cannot remain.

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• Retributive vs Restorative Narratives - Michael Camp - 

https://youtu.be/5aXYVIsCxf8?si=LChNodJkTAHWetyY  (8:30)

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• The Way - Restore
  https://youtu.be/dYPlBq8ELvA?si=mG241pAtWigdmY7n  (5:34)

 

• Fr. John Behr - Healing and Patristics

https://youtu.be/AR5ZEnV-XsI?si=-dSLjrTXD0VmrDaW​  (128:16)

 

• Fr. John Behr - Will God Save the Cosmos? 

https://youtu.be/2IQok4BIKoY?si=UXuCH1ZNqxnGUej6  (4:29)

 

• Salvation & Redemption -- The Early Christian Understanding

https://youtu.be/d_boyR_zbdE?si=RAQS-kqUeKtqGaRF

 

• A Protestant With Tons of Questions Visits a Beautiful Orthodox Church

https://youtu.be/KX4zpZE-Yqk?si=n0Ie60NXq3Oh3RJu   (54:15)

 

• A Protestant Learns About Orthodoxy From an Orthodox Priest

https://youtu.be/PE9TDX_dqOo?si=hExz6i00b4AYsmQ5  (35:18)

 

• Greek Orthodox View of Salvation: A Gospel-less Tradition

https://youtu.be/89RwCTNeZ_U?si=iZ0fVS1bLWpfaXaQ   (4:05)

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• Orthodox view of Salvation - demonstration with chairs

Note the differences between the Western and Eastern Church's explanations.

https://youtu.be/9VwP7df9BuY?si=jmdgd_z4HrpoSgmx   (54:14)

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Eucharist

 

• What Early Christians Believed About The Eucharist

https://youtu.be/JbqxxPtjtw0?si=2knUTo0gM35Xf_3l   (13:46)

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• A Fresh Look at the Lord's Supper by Tom Wadsworth, PhD

https://youtu.be/WzuVG46Ztxs?si=6T49J880Xepx3dU5  (42:08)

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• My New Communion Views - Francis Chan Explains The Eucharist

​https://youtu.be/2bH4hpCB2VU?si=Ifn_3ASO6mJqdKeK  (38:53)

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• The Lord’s Supper: Scripture vs Tradition with Dr Tom Wadsworth ​​

https://youtu.be/scGL1QlOvu0?si=SM_no4TFrISEeP2U  (56:52)​

 

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The Divine Council

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• Why should we Care About the Divine Council?

https://youtu.be/LfOK9BTuhP0?si=5TQ65Pp_12h0oKsV  (4:55)​

 

• Why Did God Devote the Canaanites to Destruction? — Part 1 | Michael Heiser

https://youtu.be/c5KjF-R71Og?si=EZphXN8cmUpodNOd  (23:56)

 

• Why Did Jesus Go Preach to Spirits in Prison in Hades After His Death? — Part 2 | Michael Heiser

https://youtu.be/U5dpy-ElTcQ?si=CE-WxuoD_ZNtaDTL

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• Michael Heiser — Giant Clans | Sin Of The Amorites (Genesis 15:16)

https://youtu.be/bpiEGZKtLJ4?si=titoq_rKF-6wLHlL

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